The Quotes We Ignored Until Life Proved Them True - Ep 20

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Have you ever heard a quote a hundred times? And then one day, life hits you hard enough that you finally understand what it means? We were reading through these axioms from Your Wishes Your Command by Kevin Trudeau. And honestly, some of them sounded cliche to us years ago. But after depression, failed businesses, fear, financial stress, rebuilding our lives, and trying to grow into different versions of ourselves, these ideas hit completely different now. Some of these ideas we ignored until life forced us to understand them. And others are ideas that genuinely shaped us, challenged us, or proved true in our own lives. So today we just wanted to have a real conversation about the ones that resonate most with us and the experiences that finally made us understand them.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

I was very excited after I finished reading the book, Your Wish is Your Command. I remember reading the axioms, and like you said, we we heard them in the past a million times, and it seems like there's just another quote out there, another motivational quote or so.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

Yeah, it's almost like you hear them a million times, but you don't understand it until you're ready to understand it.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Exactly. So I think these axioms, they're very powerful. One of them is a man without a dream is dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

This one I actually have not heard a hundred times or a million times in my life. But when I did when I was reading through them, I was like, oh, that's good. That's really good because I struggled with this so much in my own life.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Yeah. Well, you were reading the book and you were going with the emotion of the book, but at the same time, you are analyzing everything in the past, the present, and the future. So and then you see the quote, a man without a dream is dead. It gives you a different perception of life.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

It hit me hard because when I read it, I started thinking about how when I was younger, I didn't have dreams. And I thought to myself when I read this, I thought maybe that's why I was so depressed, like most of my life. Maybe that's why I struggled with depression so much. And I felt so emotionally empty inside because I really didn't have a dream other than a knowing that I wanted to like, let's say, have a business. You know, that was like my dream, but there was there was no substance behind that. The desires I had around that were really hard to define. So I felt really empty. And I'm pretty sure that's what fueled the depression that I was feeling.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

So you never felt, never thought to be like a veterinarian or no.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

God, no. I never had any dream. I never had any real guidance, even from my parents or family and friends growing up, like, oh, you should do this, or you should like there was no encouragement. There was no like, let's figure this out together, or let me help you, or let me encourage you. There was there was nothing. And it was always kind of just like I was left to my own devices, and I felt very lost. And I think that really fueled my depression.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

Yeah, you know that recently, uh putting the episodes together, have discovered we've been married uh for over 10 years now, and together like what, 16 or more. Uh and I noticed that there's some things that I kind of knew, but now that I were just kind of talking.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Now they make sense.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

They make sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

You're like, oh, yeah. It is weird because it like that was a red flag I missed.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Yeah. Absolutely. Uh no. We're kidding. But when I was a kid, I wanted to be a veterinarian, was one of them. And then I remember uh marine biologist. That was another one. I wanted to be so many things when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

Good thing you didn't go to school for marine biologists because it wouldn't work out in Arizona.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

Yeah, true. That was when I was a kid, maybe at my daughter's age around 10, 10 or 12. I used to read books about it, about you know, animals and Discovery Channel and all that stuff. So uh but then I got into music and when I got into music, I was like, wow, this is it. Yeah, this is it. I I was just obsessed with music. Basically, everything was about music. Since the moment I got up, I would grab my guitar. I think I started learning uh playing guitar when I was maybe 15. I learned so quickly. I started playing and singing after six months. Yeah. I took some classes and I was just all in. It was just crazy, it was an obsession. Nothing made more sense to me than just music. And I remember the first time I played live with my rock band, I was 18. This feeling, it's a unique feeling that you're so alive, that life makes so much sense, that such a happiness, such a bliss. It's just so hard to describe. To the point that even if someone right now drops ten million dollars on my table, I don't think it would give me the same excitement I got. You know what I mean? I just it felt so full to all myself. I remember that feeling.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Uh like you could conquer the world.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

And you can conquer the world, exactly. And and of course I was living in Colombia, which you know, the music industry is wasn't easy. It's never the music industry is not easy, right? Even if you have all the talent in the world, there's tons of musicians with great talent out there, but you know, a lot of them they don't make it, right? So we have these uh social beliefs also uh um in South America. Where the heck are you gonna like a rock band? What? Doesn't make any sense, right? So my fear started to creep in, and then was just okay, you need to be a lawyer or a doctor or you know, come come back to reality. None of that shit is gonna work out. And I went to college for engineering to study engineering, and I continue with music, but now you have like all these inner battles, right? Like am I gonna continue with playing music or am I just gonna graduate? So now your your your dreams start kinda they started perishing. Or they started vanishing.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

And that's when your depression crept in. Exactly. Right around that time.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Exactly. And that you're depressed and then you feel like nothing is working out, you're not doing things uh with a full meaning, with a full purpose, with a complete purpose. Having a dream, it just gives you a huge fuel to do things that could be very meaningful for the world and for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying, Ken, because in my case, as I said, I I didn't have a defined dream. That's why I felt so lost. And I always had this like longing within me of wanting to, you know, have a path, have a purpose, have a road, have a something mapped out that I could start and just work towards. And I never knew what that was, and it caused me a deep depression and this what I feel is like was like a huge delay in starting my life. It was like this longing to belong. I felt like I was just existing and I had no purpose. Without a dream, I felt hopeless. I felt numb. I needed something, uh a path to follow. Right. Well, I turned inward with like this hatred towards myself because I was upset with myself that I didn't have that or you know, a dream or a purpose or anything. And I just turned it in inwardly like I was worthless. And that's where I lived in that state of being worthless.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Right. But we have so many talents, and sometimes we think that we just have one dream only. But no, we we have more than one. First of all, we have a great, great imagination as we explore the world, you know, as as we go through life, we realized and we discover new talents, and we discover also other interests that they are hidden in us. And then we just have to, let's say, in my case, or I didn't continue my music path, but I had other interests that they became alive after I was going through life and after I was getting older. Right. So for those that do not have a dream, there's always something hidden.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Well, yeah, I felt like I had to dig. I mean, we've talked about this before, but like I had to dig really deep and find what made me happy, what drove me, what gave me purpose. And like that took so long and so much soul searching and you know, research and trying different things to find out like I'll try something. Nope, that's not it. I didn't like that, you know. But you can't just like sit around and think your way out of it. You have to do your way out of it, which is trying things.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Exactly. That brings us to analysis lead to paralysis, another axiom in the book.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Yeah, this is a great one too, because this also played a huge role in why I wasn't able to define my dream because I was overanalyzing all the ideas that I came up with of what I might be interested in doing. And that that led to paralysis. Exactly. I I just stayed stuck for so long because I was overanalyzing everything. I went through so many different things that I wanted to do. I went to school, I started going to college for psychology. I didn't know what exactly, but I was like, okay, maybe like a psychotherapist or some type of marriage counselor. Or then I started overanalyzing that and I thought, well, I can't make the money I really want to make with that. So many business ideas that I've come up with over the years, I would start them and then I would second guess myself and I would start analyzing everything way too deeply and be like, ooh, no, you know, this isn't gonna work because, you know, XYZ, whatever it was, overanalyzing everything which led me to imposter syndrome, where I just was like, oh, I I can't do this. Uh who am I to be doing this? You know, and so I would quit all these ideas because I was overanalyzing everything.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

But I think that you're excellent at executing, Kim. The analysis leads to paralysis. I think this one really resonates with me because I like to analyze too much. You know, that is so much that it also uh hinders my productivity.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Correct. Yes. I'm glad you admitted that finally.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

I know, I know, and and and I'm trying to actually let go faster. Just go, go, go, go, go, go.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Not in a in a choppy, uh crappy way. It's just like I try to remove resistance because I know that I put layers of review to hear the check again, check the reviews, check the quality. I mean, it's all that you know comes to my mind. Um and no, no, that's when you when you do not get any progress. Right. Overthinking decisions, fear of making the wrong choice, getting stuck in research mode. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Yeah, that's a big one.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Anxiety disguised as productivity, because you're just overthinking and thinking, you have this anxiety thinking that you're just putting the the content or the product or the idea together, but you are just spinning your wheels. You know, constantly changing direction.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Oh yeah, that that one has been a real trap for me.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Now, some businesses and some some things will change direction automatically because no one has like a plan. The plans don't really work out exactly how they're written. A plan is just to have it there in front of you and change direction as the situation or the business go. Jeff Bezos said that he was talking about you need to make sure you that you that you are willing to adjust as you go. And it makes sense because you know, with with our businesses, how many times we adjust it?

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

Right? Instead of just doing analyses, which is gonna lead you to paralysis.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Well, you need to pivot, is what you're saying. Like you need to be open to being able to pivot, which yes, we have done many times in our business. We had we were doing our e-commerce one in one direction, and it was just like losing money like a sieve, and we lost a shit ton of money with it, but at some point we had to just pivot, and we did. But you have to know and be open and willing to do that.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Right. Yep. And sometimes the reason we ever think so much, it's because we're terrifying of failing publicly.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Yes, exactly. And that takes us to our third axiom, which is a good plan executed with enthusiasm today is better than a perfect plan implemented tomorrow. Get in the do-it now habit, which is kind of like what you were just saying, where something that holds you back is you're busy perfecting everything, instead you need to just like start doing.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Even if the plan is not perfect and you just need to move forward.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

It's easy to fall into the trap. Oh, for sure. You're never gonna feel ready. Right. Right? You're never gonna feel ready. You see, imagine like you're gonna jump in the pool, the water is cold, you're thinking, I'm ready, I'm ready. It's in your mind, but your body, when you get in the water and it's freaking cold, you're oh my god, yeah, it's freaking cold. Yeah, you know, and I thought it was ready. Yeah, well, now you are. Right. Right. When you're in the water, well, you're already in.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Yeah. And one of the a good example for this actually is something that we're doing right going through right now is, you know, when I was building the e-commerce store, I was just like listing things and I was like doing it to the best of my ability, right? The the best I knew how at that time. But of course, you know, we started it in 2020, it's 2026. Things have changed massively since then. And so now, you know, I just kind of like threw the stuff up there because we needed momentum and I was like, go, go, go, get it done, get it done, get it done. But now I'm learning that so many mistakes I made along the way, and now we have to go back and correct those mistakes, which is fine because it got us to where we are. It gave us momentum. But I look back on those early listings and I'm like, oh my God, what a piece of crap that thing is. Like, how was that so successful? In some cases, not successful at all, but like how was that listing selling so well? The pictures are terrible, the descriptions crap.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Yeah, well, you know, we we put the work in back then also, right? So we accommodated as we could back then. We weren't doing it just, you know, blindly.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

I wasn't doing it blindly, but a lot of the stuff I was doing, I was just like, it was half-ass. And I'm not like a half-ass person. Like I'm usually all in or nothing. If you're not gonna do it really well, don't freaking do it. But but also don't get lost. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

You did what you could back then, or we did what we we did what we could back then, but again, we didn't get stuck in the plan. We just, hey, move, move, move, move. Right. Come on, get it done, get it out.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Because you are like, no, no, you're you know you're not doing it good enough. What what's that title? That those keywords suck, and like you start overanalyzing everything, which to your point, I understand what you're saying. Like, oh yeah, the title could have been better. But in the same breath, like, we need to get it out there and get it going. So is it a perfect title? No, it's not, but it's the best I know how in this moment, and we can always go back and correct. And same with some of the early podcast episodes. You fought me tooth and nail. You didn't want to release them because they were not a hundred percent wonderful and perfect and everything else. But, you know, we would really get into heated arguments about momentum and moving forward. And I kept reminding you like you are putting in all this resistance. You're you're putting all this resistance into forward momentum and moving forward.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

And ultimately I won. And yeah, some of those, some of those episodes might not be great, but I feel like everything we've put out there so far has a good message, has a good takeaway.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

They are from our from our own experiences and what we lived and how we are navigating life and how we overcome things, how we do things, right? How we make things better, what we learned so far from our own mistakes from life, from friends, family.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

The point is, Ken, talking to you specifically, we're being authentic and trying to help people. Yeah. And there is a message within all the chaotic, like jumbling. There's a message there that can and will help people.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

And who are we to not share it with the world? Like who's who's to who's to say that we shouldn't be sharing that with somebody? So that's my my my point is just get it out there and people will take what they need to hear. They'll take it. And if they don't need to hear it, and if they don't want to hear it, then they won't take it. And that's fine. It doesn't do anything to us to just put it out there.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

Yeah, everything comes from again, from our life, uh, our business, our marriage, basically everything. We're always moving forward. And that's the reason of this podcast, also to get you out of that stuck, uncomfortable position that you're in, that we're also in, that we just let's let's just shake it off and let's move forward. You know, every time that you tune in, you're gonna be moving forward.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Right. And honestly, one of the biggest reasons people never take action is because of other people's opinions. That is a huge hang up for why people don't execute. And that brings us to axiom number four, which is don't let people put rats in your head. And this is a good one. This is a huge one.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Oh, yeah. Yeah, because we let people influence us so much. Yep. In a previous episode, we talked about um what was it, the unicorn? The unicorn shirt.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

My unicorn sweater.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Yeah, a recap really quick about it. You know, you had a beautiful unicorn shirt, and the kids wrote a note saying, discussing, oh, do you see what came squaring today? That what an ugly unicorn shirt. You read it and that put rats in your head.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yes, it did.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

So sad. And letting people put in rats in your head is something that happens every single day. And now even with social media, it's even even easier.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

Yeah, it's way worse now.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

You just get it from every direction.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

And 'cause you're allowing other people to project their own fears onto you.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

You're letting family opinions shape and form your life, your parents' opinions, your siblings' opinions, your friends, neighbors, teachers, whoever you look up to, you're allowing their opinions, their fears to create your life. And that just that makes you stay stuck. If you're talking to your mother or your father, and you're like, I want to be a musician, you know, when I grow up. And they're like, oof, musicians. I mean, you're this isn't this isn't your example per se, because your mom, you said your mom.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

No, my mom was always supported. But people, you know, and and society and my dad, or what are you talking about? Musician. What kind of music?

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Yeah, and well, you can't make money with that. You know how hard that is?

SPEAKER_00 19:49

Yeah, yeah. Even in the US, you know, if someone tells you, I want to be a musician, you're like, Oh, okay. Anywhere you're an actor. Oh, an artist.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Yeah, yeah, I I know. I say to my dad sometimes, like, oh, that our daughter really is interested in acting, and he's like, oof. Big hard but tough business to get into. I don't know. I uh I d you know, only a certain percentage, you know, and he'll come up with this random figure, make it and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, well, I choose to rather than discourage, I yeah, choose to be supportive rather than discourage. If she wants to try it, I would be there a hundred percent of the way. Of course, I'd encourage her to have other interests and plan B. Right. But I would support it a hundred percent if she wanted to go to acting school or whatever she wanted to do. That of course, my job as a parent is to be there to support her, not to put the rats in her head.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

Right. And one thing now that we're talking about is Kim, fear sells so well.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

You can sell everything with fear. You think about it, oh, that caused cancer. Oh, nope, no buying it, no drinking it, no taking it, I'm not using it. If you put a bad spin on something that is related, you know, that is you that is fear-based, it sells quickly. Yes. We just let it be, okay, yeah, it's I can do it. Oh, that's bad for you, okay. I get it.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

The rats that the people put in your head causes us to feel stuck because we're fearful of the judgment that would come along with that. So you know, in my daughter's case, if I if I if I say to her, Ooh, honey, becoming an actress, that's a that's a tough job. Like, I don't know, not many people make it. Let's maybe you should focus on a different career instead. Well, first of all, I'm killing her dream.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Yeah, the bottom line, if you have an idea, if you have a dream, if you have something that you want to do that you feel in within your heart, don't let people put rats in your head.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

We don't need the rats in our head. We don't need people telling us like oof. No, podcasting's a tough business. Like, I don't need those opinions. I know why I'm doing it, why we're doing it. I know our truth. I know our purpose. Our hearts are in it for the right reasons. And I don't need somebody telling me not to do it because they're fear, they're projecting their fears onto me. So the fifth axiom we wanted to discuss is your ship will never come in if you don't put it out first. And this is a great one to discuss right after what we were just talking about, which is our our own fears surrounding when we were first starting the podcast. We had fears of being visible. I know you said to me many times, like, you know, that we're kind of private people and you're not sure that you want your life out there. And I kept saying to you, but like we have a message to share and we want to help people.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

And we would be doing people disservice if we kind of kept our our messages to ourselves and our our learned experiences to ourselves. If we're not out there sharing that to the world, then we're doing the world a disservice for those people that need to hear it.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Yeah, that was a decision, uh very hard decision to make, you know, put our private life out there. Right. But, you know, putting yourself out there is a it's a, you know, it's tough. It's not easy as as you may think. Oh, yeah, sure. Some people love it though. Some people they just can be true at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Like I can really like my privacy, but I can also really enjoy getting my message out there and helping people.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

Yeah, yeah. We enjoy the end result.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

If we didn't take these steps and just go with the podcast and just do the momentum, then our ship will never come in. If we weren't willing to take the risk and be visible and waiting for certainty, then we wouldn't have this podcast. And so we realized that we can't help people hiding. And we needed to put the ship out there because we're ha passionate about helping people.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Yep. And this the whole thing resonated with us. And if you need to actually get out there, just get out there. Axiom six, inch by inch, anything is a cinch, but yart by yart, it's hard.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

Yeah, I love this one because this is where a lot of people get stuck. I know that I have been stuck in this uh a million times. And you know, the it's the age-old saying that you eat the elephant one bite at a time. That's one of my favorites also that goes hand in hand with this one.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

When I realized when I had this kind of spiritual awakening and this realization of how much inner work I needed to do on myself in order to get rid of my depression and move forward with my life, this was a great one because I was like, the realization was overwhelming and so profound at the same time. But it was like, oh my God, I have so much work to do.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

And I let that take over for a minute, but then I was like, no, you know what? This is exciting. Like I get to reinvent myself here and rebuild myself, rebuild my entire life from this new mindset that I now had. And so I was excited to just dive in. And I knew it was gonna take years because you're always learning and growing and moving forward. That was over two years ago now. And the momentum and the changes and the impact and all the things that I've done in my life in the last two years to work on myself and change has been amazing. Yeah. Nothing short of amazing.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah, everything starts with small steps.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

And to recap my story, it's like inch by inch. So it was like one thing every day that I was doing, and I just kept compounding the steps I was taking, reading the books and reading page, you know, more pages every day, every day, every day, more turned into more books and more books, watching the documentaries and learning. And every day it was like one step, one step, one step. But two years has gone by now, and the accumulation of everything that I've done has brought me to who I am today. And the person I was two years ago compared to who I am today, it is like I want to say night and day.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Well, I see I see the changes. Yeah, I see the changes. You are very determined about to overcome those, overcome depression. You did it every day, every single day. I'm amazed by it, you know, the the determination that you had, they put the work step by step, inch by inch. Yeah. And it's amazing, you know, and and this works for everything. It's not only just to hang in your case, which is amazing to overcome depression. And probably people are wondering, hey, how did you really overcome depression without medication?

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

But that topic's for another day. We already we talked about this in some other episodes. But you can do anything, you know, right? When you have a goal to accomplish, when you realize, like you said, in Mind Valley, you realized that you were a victim of yourself for so long and that you had the chance to change, that you can change and reinvent yourself, and you did. When you commit to do something, when you commit to accomplish something, the first thing is gonna be one little step.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Right after the decision is just one little step for anything. Yeah. Right. And and we know that because when we in the past, when we started building businesses, an online business, uh, the first thing that we started doing was, okay, let's come up with a name. So we have the idea, let's say it's a product or whatever the case might be. And then we start with the name.

unknown 27:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

And then we're excited, right? It's just a name, you don't have anything else.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

And then okay, let's open now, uh open the website. You have to log in and do all these things, and those are little steps.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Right. And then the day is over, and then you just add the name, the website, you just have the URL. And then you go to bed, you're excited, two little steps, then again the day after, another little step, right? So and the challenge is, like you said, you have to eat the elephant one bite at a time. Yeah. Because you're not gonna have this idea, and all of a sudden in a week or you have this amazing business. Right. And I know there's a lot of things on social media now, like, oh, you can make money in 30 days, blah, blah, blah. The algorithm doesn't even work like that. No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Because it takes Google time to index your website and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Exactly. It doesn't really work like that. So you just have to commit and eat the elephant one bite at a time.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Yep. And I I want to jump into another example of this. A good example, inch by inch, anything is a cinch, but yard by yard, it's hard. I realized when we moved into our old house, my son was about 12 years old. And, you know, we had boxes everywhere in the house, and we're unpacking, and I'm focused on the entire house and the kitchen, in the living room, and getting the main areas settled. And my son had boxes in his room for weeks and weeks.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

And I kept telling him every day, hey, unpack the boxes, get going, clean up the room, let's get organized, you know, blah, blah, blah. And so finally I realized like he's looking at this pile of boxes, and this overwhelm is just like sitting on his shoulders, and he's thinking in his 12-year-old little mind, like, I don't want to. It's so much work because he's looking at, you know, eight boxes or whatever it was. And I said, So I finally realized that that was like the dilemma holding him back because he's a pretty organized kid, actually.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

And so I go in there and I sit on his bed. I'm like, look, like I know it's a lot, a lot of boxes to unpack, but we got to get organized. Take one box and start and I physically showed him how to do it. We took one box and I started taking everything out and putting it on the floor or his bed or wherever, and just like emptying the box. And I took the empty box out of the room to like cause less um chaos in the room. Just get everything out that you can. So then we started taking one thing that I had taken out of the box at a time. Where are we gonna put this book? Oh, on the bookshelf in in your closet. Let's put it there. Where are we putting these video games? Oh, okay. Well, they're gonna go, you know, and it was like one thing, one thing. And by the time we get through one thing, one thing, before you know it, the eight boxes are empty. But but I needed to take that time to show him how to empty the box.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Yeah, people get overwhelmed. We get excited about something and we just want it immediately. I used to be like that. I just want it now. And everyone wants it now. Why, why, why the delay? Why you have to delay the whole thing? But things just don't really work like that. It's one step at a time, one step at a time for anything. The last one is one of my favorites. Five years from now, the person you will be will be based on the books you read and the people you associate with. And there's more to that to me, because I always think, man, if I don't take the leap of faith right now, I know that I'm gonna regret it in two, three, four, or five years. Everything that I'm doing right now, it's going to have a result in five years. I'm gonna look back.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Imagine that it's like a saving account. Imagine that you're putting 20 bucks a day every week, right? In this uh account. In five years you're gonna have some money there.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Right. So that's the way I see it. I need to do something now. Because I know in the future, in five years, I'm gonna look back. Man, I should have started something, what I wanted to start years ago.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

And the quote says, the person you will be will be based on the books you read. You read more than me, Kim. But I also I like to read articles, uh very interesting articles about life, about how the universe works, about manifestation, about psychology, about money. And I go really deep into when I read those or when I read or watch those videos, I put also my critical thinking into it, you know, because again, I'm becoming someone because I'm I'm making I want to make sure that in five years I'm like, yes, I made the right decision. Or I started the momentum five years ago. And the people you associate with, man, just think about it, right? You need to have, you need to surround with people that means well. It's people that are actually taking you to the next level, and or you are taking them to the next level.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Yeah, it's just like when they, you know, if somebody's like in rehab for alcohol or drug use and they say, you know, one of the first things you have to do is to remove yourself from your current circle, right? Because if you continue hanging out with the same friends, guess what you're gonna be doing immediately when you walk out those rehabilitation center doors. Yeah, you're gonna go right back to hanging out with the people that got you there in the first place, drinking the drinks or smoking the whatever the heck it is that you're doing. Yeah. So you have to remove yourself from people that have this negative influence over you.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

And it's the same thing we tell our kids, right? If they're hanging out with people that are going nowhere in life or people that they're getting into trouble with, like that's who they're going to be. And so I get sometimes overly involved with my kids and who they're hanging out with. And, you know, I will try to direct them to a better friend group or a better potential people, you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Exactly. The environment shapes your identity. So there's some bullet points that I wrote here, Kim. The environment shapes identity, uh you should have a good information diet.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

Well, for sure. Right. Everybody watching crap on social media, the news, it's all negative, and you're just if you're surrounding yourself with all that negativity, then that's your information diet. Yeah. And it's you're never going to grow from that space.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Exactly. You always have to focus on the personal growth. Always at least 50% of the things you're doing is about your own growth. You have to make sure that you're choosing better inputs and you have to like kind of put a filter. And uh you need to have this kind of shield in order to get the rats out.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

And that's why we try to hang around with people that are growth-minded people. We go to different meetups. We went to one last week. So everybody there was growth-minded people. It was like for entrepreneurs, they had a talk about AI and the future of genomes. Genomes and this and that. Um, it was a really interesting talk, but the purpose of going to those things is to meet like-minded people that are that also enjoy the growth mindset and learning and improving themselves. We want to surround ourselves with those types of people rather than the ones who are sitting around talking about, you know, what Sally McHugh wore to the night out or what kind of crappy shoes she was wearing or what her hair looked like, or gossiping, you know, we rather focus on growth and improving ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Exactly. Uh so yeah, pick a good book, right? One of the books that changed my life or made me change my the way I think is uh it's called 10X by Grant Cardone. Even though he's all into real estate and all that, but the book is just makes a lot of sense about you know how you should approach life and approach business and approach the competition and how approach everything that you do. 10X. It's actually a great, great book.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

So the bottom line is things that you're doing today, the choices that you're making today are going to be shaping the person who you will be in five years.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

That's right. So, what lesson keeps showing up in your life that you still haven't fully faced, accepted, or understood yet?

SPEAKER_01 36:02

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