You Can’t Change Your Life Without Changing Who You Are - Episode 13

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Today we're talking about how most people want a different life, but they keep showing up in the same old way. And if you want to make changes in your life, it's all about creating a new identity. You can't create a new life without changing who you actually are. And in this episode, we're going to show you why that doesn't work and what actually has to shift if you want to see real change in your life. We are going to be sharing with you a four-step framework on how to actually shift your identity.

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We're very confident that it's actually going to help you to rebuild or shift your identity. Right. Because again, our standards. If you have lowest standards and expecting more, it's not going to happen. Right. So there is a problem. Wanting a different life, but still doing the same. Or thinking the same.

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Right.

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And if those don't change, your life won't change.

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Exactly.

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So we were excited about this framework. We wanted to really lay this out because we noticed that in the past we wanted changes, but things weren't working out because our identity wasn't correct. Wasn't right. Wasn't aligned with the things we wanted to accomplish.

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Right. We weren't changing our identity.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Exactly. So the problem. We were thinking the same, reacting the same. The reacting one is a big one, right? So you have a problem and you're just getting mad at it. Choosing the same is a big one also. We want to we want to change and we are choosing the same. When you're trying to get a new relationship, you're trying to get new friends, you're trying to get a girlfriend, or you're choosing the same. So you're basically following into the old patterns.

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Yeah.

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Right? Why? Because that's familiar to you. Right. And you're like, oh no, but I like her because she understands me. So you see how it's counterproductive? Yeah, she understands you.

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She understands the old you the old you that you're trying to outgrow.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And then there's no movement.

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Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

You know, so you're basically staying in the same the same spot.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Yeah. Many times throughout our lives we've wanted a different life, but we uh we're still operating like our old selves. But what we actually mean when we say about your identity is it's who you believe that you are.

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Exactly.

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And it shows up in different areas of your life, like what you'll tolerate, what you prioritize, what you do consistently or inconsistently for that matter, and how you respond to discomfort.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Yeah. So when you say like what you tolerate, again, you'll you tolerate what the the toxic wife or the toxic girlfriend, or you tolerate this like crappy jobs that you hate.

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Right.

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You want to change, but you're falling into the same type of jobs.

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Yeah. I actually have a good example of Karsten, our son the other day, he had a situation at school where the teacher was saying something, kind of talking down to him a little bit. And then he got really upset because he's a really proud kid.

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Right.

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And he came home and he was telling me about the situation that unfolded. And I was like, Well, he talked to you that way because you let him believe that you allow people to talk to you that way. And he pondered it and gave it some thought, and he was like, Yeah, I know. So what he did was really impressive. He was like, No, I'm gonna go in there tomorrow or the next day he had school and have a conversation with him and just say, like, hey, I don't know why you said what you said, because I show up every day. And he the teacher made it sound like he's not showing up that he didn't like care or something with one of his comments. And my son was like, wait a minute, I'm like on the president's list every month. I have perfect attendance. I'm the president of the student ambassadors. He's like, How could you even say that in front of the class? That kind of thing. So I was like, Yeah, you need to go have the conversation with him. And he did, and he went in and he had a conversation with him, and the teacher was like, really respected him for standing up for himself and said, Well, you're right, like maybe I don't know what his excuse was, but by the end of the conversation, they shook hands and he definitely, I know the teacher walked away respecting him more just because of instances that have happened since. So I know that he walked away with a better respect for him. Yeah. And and essentially, my son went in there and taught him how, taught the teacher how he expects to be treated. He he set those boundaries and he set that up.

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Yeah.

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And it was not easy for him. And I know he was nervous and upset about it, but you have to lay out those expectations.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Exactly. I didn't hear that part, Gam. You didn't tell me. You missed that story the other night. Yeah. Yeah. That's something that we sometimes allow to happen, right? Like, hey, wait a minute, that's not me. You know, that's that's not me. That makes me very uncomfortable. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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And then I'm not gonna take that, I'm not gonna carry that bag or that burden. Burden. No, no way. That that's not me.

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Right.

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I show up.

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Exactly.

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He knew he his identity.

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Right.

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You know, at that point.

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Yeah, and and it wasn't being reflected properly, this, but he was teaching the teacher like what he he will tolerate.

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Right. So when you you need to know what you tolerate, right?

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Yeah.

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And in the past we tolerated all of us, we tolerated crap from others, yeah. From family, from co-workers, from people, random people. Because we were just I don't wanna I don't like confrontation.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

Oh, for sure.

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You know what I mean? But every time that you were you thought to tolerate the argument or the situation, yeah, you were believe it or not, you were creating an identity.

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Oh yes, for sure.

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Because you're allowing it.

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I actually you were a great teacher of of that to me when we first started dating. Like I kind of let people walk all over me, and you wouldn't tolerate it on my behalf. And I and I the writing was made very clear on the wall early on in our relationship when you were like, you didn't want to respect me if I didn't respect myself.

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Exactly.

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And I saw that very early on, and I had to change how I approached things and kind of set those boundaries for myself because otherwise I would have lost you.

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Yep, yep. And it you know, it's something it's a simple concept because again, like just another example here. Someone is really saying that, hey, you know what? It's making you feel bad. You know, it's making it's telling you something that you know doesn't really it's not really who you are, and you know that's not who you are, but you're allowing it.

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Yeah.

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That would reshape your inner persona.

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Exactly.

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And then now you're carrying it, yeah. Well, that happened once, and then guess what? Happens again.

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Oh yeah.

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And then that's all that becomes your norm, your basis. Before you know it, yeah, because you're tolerating crap from other people.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Right.

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But that's not what you want. Right. Right. And then before you know it, you're like in the comfort zone because now that's who you are. Someone in embedded that in you.

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Yeah.

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You know, and you hated it.

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Right.

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And it's really hard sometimes to see because you don't want the argument, you don't want to upset that person. You don't like the confrontation. You don't want to go back and forth.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

Well, like my example that I was just talking about, like I remember being at work and one of the guys that I worked with made me really uncomfortable. And I never knew knew how to handle it. And I'm like, I just didn't know how to shut it down, but I didn't want the stuff. I didn't want the uncomfortable back and forth that it brought between him and I. Like I just didn't want it. So I had to slowly start just shutting it down and showing up differently.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Yeah.

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And eventually he kind of got the clue, but it was really hard. It was a hard shift for me because I don't like confrontation and I don't like I don't make, I don't like to make people feel bad. I don't like any of that. So it was really hard for me to embody that. But the more I shut it down, the clearer my message became to him and the more he started backing off.

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And now you're feeling more comfortable with yourself because hey, no, you know, I don't like that.

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Now that's my new minimum standard. I'm like, I don't allow people to get close to me like that. And I like like I don't let them move in. I don't know what the word is, but I don't let them like get into my space like that. I just I have that wall up about those boundaries of like, no, I'm not gonna let somebody make me feel uncomfortable because they have they wanna be buying me presents or you know, whatever the case may be. That's just one example. But I so I set those clear boundaries of I respect myself. I'm not going to there's nothing there. You know what I mean? Like, there's no angle for you to get in here. I'm married, I don't need gifts from another man, you know. And like he knew all that, but I would joke and we were friendly and this and that, and he just slowly and surely kept inching his way. And I don't know what his intentions are. I'm sure I can imagine what they were, but uh, I had to shut it down and I did. And from now on, now I know going forward that's my new minimum standard, and I know how to build that wall before it before there's a chance for them to get in there.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Exactly. I came that was a great example of what you went through. I remember back then. I don't want to add any comments to that. You know, that's how you do it. You know, that's how you do it. You have to put your boundaries, you have to set your boundaries to actually embrace that identity that who you really are, right? So in my case, when I moved to the US in 2009, I continued going back and forth to Colombia because I didn't know what I wanted.

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Many times. So back and forth.

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I my identity was back in Colombia. Like, what the heck am I doing here? You know, I thought this is a bad idea to move to the US.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Well, you are a musician in Colombia.

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So I wanted to continue playing music. I at that point at some point I was like, I don't even know if I want to continue with engineering.

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Yeah.

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So I was all over the place. But when I once I decided to, hey, I'm gonna stay that I'm living, I'm staying in the US, I'm gonna stay with Kim, everything started changing. Yeah. Because once I embraced it. Right. Okay, this is it.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

Yeah, you embraced that new identity.

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New identity. And also, when I said, okay, let's start the restaurant business. Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about moving back or doing this or doing that, doing crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

I think the best part actually is you embodied that new light. You like owned it instead of like, well, maybe I should have been doing this or maybe I could be doing that. But it was like literally like a definitive choice. And this didn't happen overnight. This was like three years.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Yeah, three years. But I remember the realization one day, this is it, that's it. I'm not doing it anymore.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

Yeah, you know, and I felt that from you because in that three years, you were wishy-washy back and forth, and like, oh, I think I'm moving back, and uh, back and forth. And I do remember like the definitive, I just knew it was in your heart this time, this final time, even though I wanted to believe those other times, like, okay, no, this time is different. Like, no, this time was actually different.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yeah, and I got excited. Yeah, I'm living in the US, my life is in the US. You know, you were my girlfriend back then, you know, with my beautiful girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

Because I I love the US. It's not that I have anything against it. It's just that again, I I couldn't, I didn't uh know a lot of people, I didn't have like friends or history here. My friends from high school were living down there. And from college as well. Yeah. So like no, yeah, and then three years and then okay, that's it. Yeah, I I'm shit or get off the pot. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Sometimes we just wait for clarity, and clarity doesn't arrive. Like it takes time. Yeah. But you have to find your way. Yeah. You have to find a way.

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Yeah, you have to, in order to embody that new identity, that shift, you need to be able to make those decisions. So with definite purpose and intention.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

That's right. So that's when I decided even when I was unsure. Right. But part of me was sure. But that is always the lingering behind this uncertainty.

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Like, am I making the right choice? I really freaking hope I'm making that choice. But you have to trust.

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You have to trust. I trusted and I follow through. Yeah. Right. So we have to trust ourselves. And once I did that, everything started flowing.

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Yeah.

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You know? Yeah. Everything started flowing. And if I didn't do that, if I didn't make that commitment, if I didn't make the decision, if I didn't follow through, just kind of doubting it.

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Right.

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I would just fall back into okay, I'm I'm moving back.

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Right.

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You know? And things doesn't really flow. And the same thing happened when you're in a job that you hate. You're just like you want a new you want to change. We all know how to change. You know how you can change it, but you're afraid to get out of the comfort zone.

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Right.

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You know, like, hey, I'm just gonna I'm gonna polish my resume and I'm gonna start looking for a new job. We are just too comfortable that we just don't take that step of faith.

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Right.

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To like, hey, I'm changing. Right. I gotta change. But all the the changes start in you.

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Right.

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You know, I noticed that years ago I remember that when I said to you, Kim, when we're moving to Arizona, it's gonna be like a new Ken.

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Yeah.

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You know, I wanna enjoy my weekends. I wanna really enjoy life. I don't want us to be stressed out anymore.

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Right.

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I was making those decisions in my head.

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Yeah.

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Even before I moved, you know. So was very it it's something that you have to do. That I I once you do it, things will start changing. You're you're embracing this new identity.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Yeah. Change, it's it's uncomfortable, it's unfamiliar, it's scary. Human beings are wired for being comfortable. And so, like your example of a new job, it's like, well, if you go get a new job, then you have a new boss, and then you have new work friends, and you have to meet all these new different personalities and different responsibilities and everything else. But if you stay stuck and stay comfortable, then there's no growth.

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There's no growth. Yeah. And you're wondering why things are not really happening the way you want it to happen.

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You can't change your life if you don't face the uncomfortable stuff.

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So you have to acknowledge, okay, I need I need a change.

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Right.

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Right? That's the first thing. I need a change. I'm not comfortable or I'm not happy when I am right now.

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Yeah.

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And now you don't even know why you're changing at that moment, or you there is a change coming from you, from the inner you to reshape your outer world. And that's one of the things that would change your life.

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It's not that people don't want a new life, it's that they don't want to let go of who they've been. Yeah. Because they are just they just want to be comfortable. And it's and it's easy. Being comfortable is easy. Being uncomfortable is hard. Change is hard. One of the huge identity shifts that I had to make was that of the clinical depression that I lived with most of my life. Um, I once I realized that I had been living like this victim of, oh my gosh, I'm depressed and I this is just who I am. This is just me.

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Yeah.

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Once I realized that was the identity that I was taking on my whole life, I knew immediately that I had to shift it. I didn't know how, and it was scary and all the things, but I knew immediately like that's not the identity that I want to put out into the world.

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Right.

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So I had to choose a new identity.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Yeah. This was again, I have to say it is controversial. Yes. Because the way you put it sounds like a, oh, it's just a choice.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Right. You you gotta go back and listen to that episode about of the work you did in the past.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, for sure. It again, it wasn't just like, oh, this is a decision, and I'm gonna stop taking all medications, and tomorrow I'm just gonna wake up and choose a better version of me, and that's the end of it. And here I am sitting here today. No, right. Didn't work like that. But that is how it started was one decision to shift that identity and to change out of that identity. And you can do that today.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Right.

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That's anybody that's available to anybody today to shift anything in their life, any identity that they don't want to relate with anymore, you can shift it.

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Right.

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It starts with a simple decision of you know what, that's the identity that I want to change. And you choose the identity that you want to embody and you start working every day a little bit, piece by piece.

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All right, so let's dive in and how to actually shift identity. If we say that there are going to be four steps, all right, so we're just gonna keep it simple and clear. All right, so for step number one, so decide who you want to be.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Yeah, that's like what I was just talking about, is just literally make the decision.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

So again, if you want to change your identity, you wanna reach the next step. If you wanna, hey, you know what? I'm tired of being this persona, I'm tired of this job, I'm tired of this relationship, I'm tired to be overweight, I'm tired of being poor. So you have to decide who you want to be. That's step number one.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Yeah, not what you want. You're not deciding what you want, you're deciding who you need to become in order to embody this new identity.

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Correct.

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Step number two would be to start acting like that person now. Before the results show up, before you feel ready, before any of that.

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Yeah, oh, we know that. That's what we're we we're living it right now.

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We're living it right now. Yes.

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We are living it. We started the podcast, we started uh e-commerce a while ago. Everything that we start, we are acting like that person right now.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Right. Or even you with your job loss. Like, we're like every day we have we're on this roller coaster of like, okay, well, hopefully you don't have to get a job. We're gonna really try to make this work, but we keep changing that to like, no, you don't have a job. This is who we are. This is who we are now. We are e-commerce owners, we are podcasters, we are embodying this new identity, and we're showing up every single day, yeah, putting in the piece, putting the pieces together brick by brick, and building this new identity.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, and we are helping people every single night and every morning. I declare to the universe and to the world that I am helping people because that's what I want to be. So I'm shifting my identity.

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Yes, right.

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So I'm just embracing it. You have to start acting like that person now. We know that this is all from our experiences as we're building together.

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Yeah.

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All right, so step number three, stop reinforcing your old identity. And that one is gonna be a hard one. This is like a like a just a job that you have to do every single day. Why? Because it's gonna default, your brain is gonna default to your old identity.

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Yeah.

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You have to catch yourself every single time.

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Yeah, you have to interrupt those thoughts every time.

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Yeah, again, stop reinforcing your old identity. Right. Things are not gonna change if you don't change your identity, if you don't choose, if you don't make a decision.

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Right.

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You know, just when I made a decision, I'm not going back to Colombia, I'm not going back and forth anymore. You know, you embracing that. You need to embrace that again. Step number three, stop reinforcing your old identity. Overthinking, hesitating, avoiding.

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Right.

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None of that.

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Right.

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You have to, hey, I don't know, pinch yourself on the arm. Wait, I'm going back to the old person. This is not me.

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Right.

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You have to do the work, it's all mental.

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Interrupt the thoughts. Interrupt the thoughts, change the thoughts, replace the thoughts with better ones, replace the thoughts with the identity that you are trying to embody.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Yep. Just to give you an example, in the morning when I get up and I'm making breakfast and all that, and I don't have to work on the podcast or in the e-commerce business, I start getting like a little maybe crabby, or maybe I start getting a little upset or the uncertainty creeps in. What I do? Put the music on. I get a Lexa, play something.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Yep.

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And I'm while I'm making my breakfast, I'm just focusing on the music. I'm not gonna drown in my thoughts with uncertainty, overthinking, hesitating, avoiding the project that I have going on.

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Right.

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So you stop reinforcing your old identity because again, it's gonna default here and there. You have to go back. Hey, I'm shifting my identity.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Yes. And this is like days, months, years of work. This isn't just like, oh, tomorrow I'm gonna wake up and I'm gonna be a successful or a millionaire. That's just tomorrow's identity that I choose to assume. But it doesn't work that way.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

But you're gonna start seeing the results. Yes. For sure.

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They start stacking.

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And before you know it, like, oh my God, look at you.

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Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Before you know it, again, if you're looking for a new job or if you're looking for a new relationship, you can get a call tomorrow an opportunity, and you get this new job that you're actually shifting into. Andor find the person you go to Starbucks or you go to, I don't know, somewhere out there to Target, or the side and you meet the Person, you it's just like wow, this person is so awesome. But then you're like, wait a minute, right? You're gonna default back, and oh but she's so perfect. You know no, wait, she's perfect because you're shifting to that new identity, right? You're gonna feel like a pulling away because she's too great because again she's now aligning with your old your old identity.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

Now wait a minute, see, now you have it in front of you.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Exactly.

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It's the new identity, the the great person that you wanted to meet is right in front of you. Now you have to continue doing the work and you become that great person that you wanted to be.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

Exactly. Which brings us to step number four, and that is to build the evidence.

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Build evidence, small actions, consistent follow-through, just don't fall into the trap.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

But it's like the neuroscience of you are creating the new neural pathways, it's the neural plasticity that they talk about. So you have to overwrite your old pathways with new ones. And uh the more you do the new patterns, the more deeply they will become ingrained in you.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

And so the reinforcement of those patterns over time is what is going to build your new identity.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

So you're rewriting on top of your old identity.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

You're actually molding all that crappy you or that crappy situation or that crappy things that are happening.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

No no no doubt So you need to build the evidence and it's one step at a time again, one brick at a time. And that all builds upon each other, it builds the momentum, and it is it's like the compound effect of making better choices. One good choice leads to the next good choice, and the next good choice, and the next good choice, and then all of a sudden you're this beautiful new version of your old self.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Yep. But there's an ugly truth that we don't want to hear. You don't get a new life first, you become a new person first. We don't want to hear that. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Right? But that's the ugly truth of the process, right? Because everything is a process, but how bad do I want it? How bad do I want the change?

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Yeah. And what happens if you don't feel like that new person yet?

SPEAKER_00 24:21

Oh, yeah. That's you have to go back to stem number one.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Decide who you want to be. But what if someone doesn't feel like that person yet?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Yeah, well, that's gonna happen consistently. And you're not supposed to feel like the new person yet, because that's part of the process. That's part of like the shedding of the old you, right? You're not gonna, again, you're not gonna wake up the next day and just embody this totally different identity of somebody that you've been living for 15, 20, 30, 40 years. You're not gonna wake up the next day and be like, I'm somebody different today. Like that's right. It's the compound effect. A small decision, one small choice at a time, and they just keep building them.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

That's right. All right, so again, four steps. Step number one, decide who you want to be. Step number two, start acting like that person now.

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And step three, stop reinforcing your old identity. Step four is to build your evidence. If you check out our website at Ken and Kim Podcast calm, we are gonna have an awesome resource up for you the same day that this episode comes out, and we will have a guide that includes steps one through four and how you can actually shift your identity and make this actionable. So if you follow these steps, you're just literally one decision away from creating a new identity and making the changes that you want to see in your life. You're gonna need to put in the work and do it, but it's available to anybody.

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We look forward to hearing your stories and following along with our journey. And we will see you in the next episode.

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