March 30, 2026

Introduction: Our Story of Failure, Debt, Depression, Growth & Rebuilding

Introduction: Our Story of Failure, Debt, Depression, Growth & Rebuilding

Welcome to the very beginning. Before the strategies, before the tools, before the breakthroughs… this is the story behind everything. In this introduction episode, we’re taking you all the way back. Back through the failures, the setbacks, the risks, and the moments where everything could have fallen apart. We’ve: Built businesses that didn’t workLost hundreds of thousands of dollarsCarried overwhelming debtMoved across the country to start overFaced depression, uncertainty, and feeling comp...

Season 1

Welcome to the very beginning.

Before the strategies, before the tools, before the breakthroughs…

this is the story behind everything.

In this introduction episode, we’re taking you all the way back.

Back through the failures, the setbacks, the risks, and the moments where everything could have fallen apart.

We’ve:

  • Built businesses that didn’t work
  • Lost hundreds of thousands of dollars
  • Carried overwhelming debt
  • Moved across the country to start over
  • Faced depression, uncertainty, and feeling completely stuck
  • And now… we’re rebuilding again

This podcast isn’t about having it all figured out.

It’s about what it actually looks like to rebuild your life in real time.

Because the truth is…

you might have to start over more times than you expected.

And that doesn’t mean you’re failing.

It might mean you’re getting closer.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

  • Our full backstory (the real version)
  • Why we started this podcast
  • What we’ve learned from starting over again and again
  • And what you can expect as you follow along with us

If you’ve ever felt stuck, lost, or like life keeps knocking you down…

you’re not alone.

We’re right there with you.

And we’re rebuilding, together.

Follow along for real conversations about rebuilding your life.

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How many times do you think you can start over in life before you finally become the person you were meant to be?

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We've asked ourselves that question more times than we can count.

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I'm Ken and I'm here next to my beautiful wife.

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Kim.

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And we're here today to get into a little bit of our story, a little bit of our background to let you know where we've been and how far we've come.

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Yep, and I guess we have to move all the way to what?

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The early 2000s?

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Yeah.

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Alright, so uh I can start us off.

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So young Kim, early 2000s.

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Woohoo! Oh you got uh yeah, so early 2000s, I was married to my former husband, who is the father of my son, who will be 20 next month in like a couple weeks, actually.

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Because when you and I met, he was three.

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Yeah.

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So but yeah, a little bit about that story.

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Um I was married to my former husband, you know, when we weren't working out.

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And I ended up leaving him, which was a very difficult time in my life.

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Um, I just wasn't happy.

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We weren't he's he's a good guy, but we just were never on the same page with what we wanted out of life.

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He was very uh focused on job, career, you know, corporate world, which was has never been for me.

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I wanted much more different thing, much different things out of life.

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Right.

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He he always referred to me as the dreamer because I, you know, have a entrepreneur spirit and wanted to build my own my own thing, whatever that looked like.

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Yeah.

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And so needless to say, we could never get on the same page about that.

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So it just I saw the writing on the wall pretty early on, um, despite having been with him for like eight years or so.

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Yeah.

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But I was young uh when we met, so you know, wasn't gonna work out.

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So I left and uh was a single mother for a while.

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Then you and I met.

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Yep.

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We met uh that was back in 2009.

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Yep, and like I said, our my son at that time was around three years old.

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So um, and throughout the whole thing, I was severely depressed ever since I was a teenager.

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I struggled with clinical depression, um, anxiety, a lot of other things that went along with that.

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I was in and out of, you know, depression for most of my life at that point, medications, different treatments, different things, therapies.

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And uh it was pretty much treatment resistant, which made it very difficult for me.

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Yeah.

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And then you got your degree also.

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Yeah.

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Then um at well, yeah, at the same time I was going through college when I was married and and had my son, I was actually finishing up my degree.

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Yeah.

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Um, I started in psychology because I knew within my heart that I wanted to help people, but I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do.

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And I was going again, I was uh a mother and a wife and started going to school at night because I just wanted to get it done.

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So got my degree and then uh was working for my family business until my family ended up selling the business.

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Um, and I stayed home for a few years to raise my son, anyways.

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So I was kind of put my career on the back burner for the time being.

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Yeah.

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So and then we met.

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Yep, after well, after I left yeah, my husband and we were going through a divorce, then we met, yeah, in 2009.

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2009.

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Yeah.

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So um I'm from Columbia and I moved in 2009 to Connecticut.

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Uh, I had a call from my aunt asking me if I wanted to move to the US to finish my degree in engineering.

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My mom's side of the family uh was living in Connecticut, so she was just inviting me to, you know, to basically move overseas, you know, just kinda live in the US and finish my degree or so.

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To the podunk town of Durham, Connecticut.

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Durham, Connecticut, that's right.

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Where all the cows live.

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Yeah.

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From the beautiful coast of Colombia to the cow country.

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Yeah, from Cartagena by the water, uh, Colombia.

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And so I got a call asking, hey, do you want to finish your degree here in the US?

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And I uh I said yes.

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I went to the embassy, I got my I got my visa, and I started working in Durham, Connecticut.

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In the beginning it was really hard for me because I had a girlfriend back then in Colombia, I had a rock band, and I was always into music.

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I always been into music another dreamer, just like me.

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Yeah, so when I started working in Connecticut, I was working with engineers and I and operators, machine operators and designers and we were doing medical devices and I was just so depressed, sad that I was like, this is not for me.

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You know, I I I was like, what the heck am I gonna do with my life?

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I don't even know if I wanna finish my degree.

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I don't even know if I wanna do this anymore.

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You know, so it was really hard for me in the beginning.

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And like you said, I I used to live in a city that wasn't near the water.

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And then moving to Connecticut to live in Durham was really hard for me.

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Yeah, I think that that was the countryside of, you know, Connecticut or so or the US.

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It's a very small town in Connecticut that's surrounded by farmland.

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Yeah, it was was kind of hard for me in the in the beginning.

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And then we met.

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I remember that we met one of my friends, co-workers who invited me to a party.

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You were there, and then Yeah, it's it's a funny story actually, because I almost didn't even go into the party.

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Your friend, oh, you were there with your friend, and then um I was with my friend who was seeing a girl who was at the party.

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Yeah.

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And the girl called my friend and said, Hey, you and Kim should come down to the party and you know, hang out, or they were doing salsa or something.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, Well, that sounds fun.

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Yeah, but I that it was like late at the end of the night, and we had already been out, you know, had a few drinks or whatever.

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And by the time we get there, I'm it was not far, but I'm already like, you know, half asleep in the car, like, eh, maybe I don't really want to go in.

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But and my friend was like, No, no, no, no.

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You wanted to come, you made me drive down here, you're going in.

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And I'm like, all right.

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So I sucked it up, had my second wind, and thank God I went in because that would have been our only time meeting.

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Right, right.

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And I was just funny because uh uh the my co-worker that invited me there, his brother had like a salsa studio or something, and I was really actually into rock, believe it or not.

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Like into salsa, hardcore, you know.

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Like screaming.

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Uh-huh.

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And and I'm like a salsa, and I'm like, okay.

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And I went, you know, and and then we met there.

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And then actually we started we were dancing.

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We were both dancing salsa, which I've never done.

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Trying to dance salsa because I nobody neither of us knew how to do that.

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I was trying, I was pretending, being honest with you.

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Which is weird because again, you might think like, oh yeah, he's he's from Columbia, he might know.

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Yeah, you know, but no.

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But we had a good time, so we met that day.

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And but I was very immature when we met.

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And had a girlfriend.

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Yeah, I had a girlfriend in Columbia.

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So was it wasn't easy, you know, the whole transition, the whole again, like you said, me uh being a uh dreamer as well, dreaming about how am I gonna you know start my music career here instead of engineering and or start a business.

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You know, because again, we were I was trying to find myself at twenty-five.

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Yeah when I when he met you, I was we just turned twenty six.

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Twenty-six when we met.

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I was very immature, very immature for a long time.

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Long time.

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For a long time, uh yeah, we had struggles a lot of struggles because I had my son and and I was a single mom, and I'm like, I can't I I need something serious, I can't be with somebody uh doesn't, you know, ready for this.

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Yeah.

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Because I I had to be ready.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then uh we had a lot of issues, you know, at the beginning again, like you had a you had a kid, and one of the things was like, all right, so I moved to the United States.

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I didn't know what to do either, you know what I mean?

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When I met you, and I didn't know if I want to like start a new relationship or like uh live together or raise a kid.

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Right.

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Like it's just and again, I was very immature.

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Right.

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I was 25, but I was probably acting like I was 19.

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Yeah.

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So after the the time went by and we went through a lot of ups and downs.

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Well, you went through a lot of moving back and forth to Colombia to Connecticut.

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Yeah, I moved, I moved back to Columbia.

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Breaking my heart.

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Well, I I went back to Columbia a few times or so, and I was like a I wasn't a freaking limbo at all.

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And you kept me in a limbo.

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Yeah, so it was just really bad.

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But then so after we went through all the issues that we had after going back and forth to Colombia and actually growing up, finally for me, you know, growing up and making a commitment to okay, w I want us to be together.

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We decided that we wanted to to start a business together.

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Yeah.

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I've always been business oriented, you were as well.

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And we wanted to start a business, you know.

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We didn't know back then what we came across to this uh restaurant opportunity that we bought and unfortunately.

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Yeah.

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No, it's I I say unfortunately because it was an expensive learning experience, but I don't regret it because we needed that experience to figure out what we didn't want.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So it was an opportunity back then that was I think 2014, that we were just kind of looking online.

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Hey, we need to start something.

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Yeah, we were looking at all types of businesses.

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All type, yeah.

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And then we said, okay, yeah, I guess this is it.

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We negotiated with the owner, we bought it after I think after a year or two, we bought a second location, but it was a freaking fiasco, you know, the whole fame.

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They were both failing restaurants locations, and we, you know, after doing our due diligence, decided that we would be able to revive them to their once flourishing restaurants that they were.

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We thought that we could revive them, but times had changed, locations had changed, um, one of them.

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Other businesses had come in, different things.

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One thing I learned was that if their business is not working and still making money, that's the way I see it now, because I didn't know back then.

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I don't even want to entertain the idea.

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Oh no, absolutely.

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That was the biggest mistake up front.

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If you think that you don't buy a failing business, never, ever, ever.

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For whoever is listening, don't ever buy a failing business.

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Thinking that you can do something.

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No.

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It's not gonna work out.

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No.

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It's not gonna work out.

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I mean, I'm sure there are instances where that can work out.

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Unless you're like a bar rescue type.

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Yeah, well, unless you have massive amounts of um cash to inject into it, which we didn't.

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Yeah, if you're a professional, if you know what you're doing, but it's just, you know, I won't entertain an idea.

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No, never again.

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If the business is not making money, I won't even entertain the idea.

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No.

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And after we bought those restaurants, we're running them for a while, we had our daughter in 2016.

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Um, we got married then, seven years after we got together.

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Yeah, right, right.

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Right, yeah, we had a we had a beautiful, beautiful daughter.

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She's 10 now.

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Yep, just turned 10.

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After we had our daughter, we decided that we needed to build a better better life because we were struggling financially from the restaurants.

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And that's when you said to me, like, I can't live here anymore.

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I cannot live in Connecticut anymore.

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And I was like, what the heck do you want me to do?

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I have a son here.

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He's, you know, very close with his father.

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They we shared 50-50 custody, and it wasn't an option for me to pick up my life and just move because I didn't think that my son's father was gonna let me do that.

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But you were adamant about it, you were just miserable, and so I decided like I have to do something if we want to improve our family's life, then we need to figure this out.

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So I talked to my ex-husband and told him he, you know, he knew the whole story of what was going on with the restaurants and how much financial debt we were in and how much we were struggling, and he knew the whole thing.

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And he's he's a good guy.

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And he not easily, it wasn't like, yeah, sure, go ahead and go do that.

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It was like a year of convincing him that I needed this and it would be the best thing for me and my son.

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And, you know, of course, he wants the best for his, he wanted the best for me because that made me a better mother.

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Yeah.

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And of course, you know, his son was his number one priority.

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And although that put a strain on their relationship, not a strain, but it it caught it was a distance.

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Made it difficult, yeah.

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Yeah, made it difficult because um we ended up moving to Arizona where my family, my mother was living, and she was encouraging me to move there because move here because she could help us rebuild.

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Yeah.

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And that was probably one of the most difficult parts of my life.

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I well, it was one of one of the most difficult parts of my life was moving my son away from his father.

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It was the best choice for everyone involved, even my son, who, you know, we moved here when he was 12.

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But he wasn't building a life in Connecticut either.

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He didn't have good friends, he didn't have nothing.

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He really didn't have anything.

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We lived in a small condo.

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He just didn't have anything going for him.

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It's not like he had this great life that I was taking him from.

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Yeah.

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We didn't have any opportunities, nothing.

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We just wanted to get out of there.

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So that's when we made the difficult decision to move.

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So when we decided that yes, we're gonna move, I talked to my son's father.

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It took him about a year to come around to the idea and be okay with it.

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And within that year, we had to sell two restaurants, two failing restaurants, which was a chore in itself.

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We had to sell our condo, which was also a chore because the market was not good.

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Yeah.

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And you know, we had to uproot my son's life, I had to disturb his father's relationship with him.

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I had to we had a our daughter that we had to move, and somehow managed to move across the country to Arizona.

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Yeah.

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So it was a really challenging, difficult road to get here.

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But we knew it was necessary, and it was either stay there and struggle and kind of be miserable or start fresh and rebuild.

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Right.

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And as scary as it was and as inconvenient as it was for the people around us, both of our families lived in Connecticut.

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Although I had my mom here in Arizona, I had other family in Connecticut, you had your whole family in Connecticut, and my son's family in Connecticut.

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As scary as it was, we managed to get it done.

00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:39.200
Yeah.

00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:48.879
And it was um, it wasn't easy because uh it took us a whole year for us to sell the restaurants, sell the condo, move to Arizona.

00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.200
So it wasn't just like that, like, oh yeah, let's go.

00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:51.600
Right.

00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:56.000
No, it took a lot of a lot of preparation mentally, a lot of planning.

00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:05.279
I remember that we used to take our daughter and her stroller, walk around the neighborhood, yeah, and thinking and planning how to do the move.

00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:05.679
Yeah.

00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:09.039
You know, so we and struggling thinking, is this going to work?

00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:10.320
Yeah, how are we gonna do it?

00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:10.639
Yeah.

00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.080
Because it required like all so many things, money.

00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:15.200
A lot of moving parts.

00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:23.519
A lot of moving parts that we're just so unsure of, but we stuck to the belief that this was going to work out.

00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:24.480
That was gonna work out.

00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:25.360
And it was really hard.

00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.840
Like, are you how can you see right?

00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:29.679
Right, like how can you project that?

00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:30.080
Right.

00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:32.720
Like we again, like the restaurants are in between.

00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:33.039
Yeah.

00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.639
That is not like something that you sell that easily and then we're failing.

00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:41.440
And a condo, and like, all right, even if we move, we have so much so much debt.

00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:41.840
Yep.

00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:43.120
Like, was really, really hard.

00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.240
But couple hundred thousand dollars worth of debt at that point.

00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:46.639
Yeah.

00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:46.960
Yeah.

00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:48.240
Like, what are we gonna do?

00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:49.600
And so we're gonna do this.

00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:50.000
Right.

00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:54.399
So it wasn't like we had all this cash, just like, oh, screw it, you know, whatever.

00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.000
We'll just get up and go and do it.

00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:03.279
It was it was a lot of planning, a lot of blind faith that the plan was going to work out, how it needed to work out.

00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:07.599
So if you think about it, I was basically I didn't finish my degree in engineering.

00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:08.160
Right.

00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.880
I was still thinking in the back of my head about music.

00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.640
You got your degree in public administration.

00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:15.119
Yeah.

00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.920
And you had uh the student loan.

00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:19.839
Still have the student loans.

00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.119
And we were like, how the heck are we gonna do this?

00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:23.839
Right.

00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:24.400
Yeah.

00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:26.720
You know, but we managed and we did it.

00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:27.759
We moved to Arizona.

00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:29.440
We're here now, we're happy.

00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.640
But then when we moved, of course it wasn't easy in the beginning.

00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.599
We we moved with your mom, we stayed there for eight months or so.

00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:36.640
Six.

00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:38.160
Yeah, well, no, eight, you're right.

00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:39.119
Six to eight months.

00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:39.519
Whatever.

00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:44.400
Um, and then we our engine was still running, like, hey, we need to start something.

00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:45.599
Yeah, what are we gonna do?

00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:46.640
What's next?

00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:47.519
What's next?

00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.599
How can we get a house with 200,000 or so in debt?

00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.039
How can we get a a nice house for our family?

00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:02.400
We didn't want to move here and move into a small little c condo again that nobody fit in, that we had outgrown.

00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:02.960
Yeah.

00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:04.559
No, we we have big dreams.

00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:05.759
We we knew what we wanted.

00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:06.880
We weren't gonna go back here.

00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:09.359
We always been like I have this big vision.

00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:09.680
Yeah.

00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:11.359
You know, we always share that.

00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.000
So and then we were like, all right, what can we do?

00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:14.480
Right.

00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.759
And then you decided to get your real estate license.

00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.160
We were kind of thinking to flipping some homes.

00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:20.799
Yeah.

00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:26.640
Well, when we did move here, when we were running the restaurants, Ken was running the restaurants during the day.

00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:31.759
I still had my daytime job because I was kind of the breadwinner at that time.

00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:32.079
Yeah.

00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:44.319
And I was funding through my job our household and our payroll and the lack of whatever the restaurants weren't making, I was funding with my paycheck.

00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:44.640
Yeah.

00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.400
And I was working seven days a week.

00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:46.720
Yep.

00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:53.200
And then I was too because I was not there on the weekends with you, you know, when we had our daughter, then I started going less.

00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.880
But yeah, I was working seven days a week at nights on weekends.

00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.640
We were exhausted, we were stressed out, all that stuff.

00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:11.680
Then when we finally moved to Arizona, I was still working for my company, but remotely in Connecticut, but they were going through a closing.

00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:12.559
They were closing.

00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:12.960
Yeah.

00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:14.400
They were going out of business.

00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.480
So I knew that that was coming down the pipeline rather quickly.

00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:22.240
They went out of business within a year of us moving here.

00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:24.480
I think I worked remotely for about a year.

00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:24.880
Yeah.

00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:29.839
And it was good money, it was decent money and 100% paid healthcare.

00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:30.079
Yeah.

00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.319
So that was really held us over well, you could get a job.

00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:45.119
But then when we get here to Arizona, you're looking for a job and you're stuck again because now you have to go into another job that you don't love.

00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:45.519
Yeah.

00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:47.279
And that's not that wasn't the plan.

00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:50.799
That was that's well, I mean, it was the plan to get us to rebuild.

00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:52.400
It was a stepping stone.

00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:54.559
But it it's not our life plan.

00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:55.359
Exactly.

00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:56.079
That's what I meant.

00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:56.799
Yeah exactly.

00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:04.319
Like I say, you got your real estate license, thinking, all right, what about if we flip some homes, if we kind of fix them up and blah, blah, blah.

00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:06.799
We kind of thought to do that, it wasn't easy.

00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.319
That there was a lot of competitors or a lot of buyers.

00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.920
But again, and then we thought so we didn't go that route.

00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.559
And then uh we started e-commerce.

00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:23.599
And oh, I forgot to actually mention that we started uh a Shopify or drop shipping back in Connecticut before we moved.

00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:24.240
Yes, we did.

00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.240
Yeah, we did a little bit about that also.

00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:27.839
That didn't really work out.

00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:33.759
We started selling products online, but we didn't like the business model, and then we're like, okay, this is not for us.

00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:34.880
Yeah, shut it down.

00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:36.640
Shut it down, the drop shipping.

00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:42.319
But then we went back again in Arizona doing e-commerce, and that's what we do now.

00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:56.079
We started an e-commerce business in 2019, and then all of a sudden 2020 hit, right when we were trying to really get into it, but kind of worked out to our benefit because people started doing a lot more online shopping.

00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:56.640
Yep.

00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:03.920
So that's when we were able to grow our business a little bit, but we didn't know exactly what we were doing.

00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.640
So we had a lot of issues with that as well.

00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:12.799
And as you know, we were still carrying all of that debt from the restaurants in Connecticut, trying to manage that.

00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:16.960
We had moved out of my mother's house and bought our own house.

00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.799
Um, so now we had this new household bills.

00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.119
We had the restaurant debt we were paying off.

00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.400
We were trying to start a new business, and then I lost my job.

00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:27.200
Yeah.

00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.720
All all within a very short period of time.

00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.200
I lost my job right before COVID hit.

00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:34.720
So that income stopped.

00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:35.119
Yeah.

00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:42.319
But then when COVID hit, I remember when uh the news published about that we're in a pandemic.

00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:42.720
Yeah.

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:44.559
Our sales skyrocketed.

00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:44.960
Yeah.

00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.640
But we still didn't know what we were doing and have anything in place.

00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:49.440
No idea.

00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:52.400
So we were still like losing a ton of money.

00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:52.880
Uh-huh.

00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:54.079
Losing yes, yes.

00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.160
And we didn't have a ton of money to lose.

00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.160
No, no, exactly.

00:21:58.480 --> 00:21:59.759
Then yeah, our sales went up.

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:07.359
The RC was increased and then we saw it as an opportunity, and then we continue grinding um e-commerce.

00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.920
I think I said in a previous episode that we're just building pallets from home.

00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:12.319
Yeah.

00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:14.319
And it was crazy, it was breaking my back.

00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:16.400
Oh, while you were working full time.

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:16.799
Yeah.

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:24.720
I got a job here in Arizona, and then right after work, I'll just go home and start packing and sending stuff to the warehouses.

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:30.240
So it was a lot of time consuming trap work to get the orders ready.

00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:46.240
We're talking like thousands of items that all needed to be packaged, labeled, bagged, uh bubble wrapped, whatever the item was, and and and then packed in a box and put on a pallet, shrink wrapped.

00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:51.599
We'd have a 18-wheeler come and pick these large pallets up out of our garage.

00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.000
And I'm calling these companies just to the logistics to see when are they gonna show up.

00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:56.480
Yep.

00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.960
And all this kind of, you know, again, we're we're living in a residential neighbor neighborhood.

00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:01.440
Right.

00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:04.160
And no one was expecting to have this 18-wheeler.

00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:04.640
Yes.

00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:14.079
You know, to pick up those pallets, but you know, we were doing the work, we're kind of planning to open a warehouse at some point, and then we're like, no, I guess we're not gonna go that route.

00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:20.000
We don't want employees, yeah, we don't want any uh rent again, and you know, all that.

00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.119
So we decided, hey, no, I guess that that's not gonna be it.

00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:23.680
Right.

00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.559
And then uh but we're still doing e-commerce again.

00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:35.680
We scaled back that business because part of it was failing miserably because margins were so low and we just couldn't find any suppliers.

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:36.160
Yeah.

00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.440
The supply chain was getting ridiculous with COVID.

00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:40.400
That happened.

00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:43.200
We couldn't get so much stuff that we needed.

00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:44.640
Yeah, it was very challenging.

00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:49.839
It was challenging and very slim margins, especially for the way we were doing it.

00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:50.079
Yeah.

00:23:50.240 --> 00:24:09.519
I know that people are very successful doing it, but not the way we were doing it out of our house, which was very limiting, but we didn't want to we didn't want to build a business and have the same mistakes made again where we were tied into a location, tied into employees, tied into rent on a warehouse, something like that.

00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:11.279
We didn't want to make those same mistakes.

00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:16.880
We already learned that lesson the first time, and we already learned that that we don't want that out of life.

00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:20.960
We want to be, we wanted to build something that was location independent.

00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:29.119
So we were we had time freedom, we were able to travel when we want and build a life on our own terms and do what we wanted.

00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:39.920
So yeah, we kind of scaled that back, and so now we have a portion of that business still running that's a little bit different than when we started.

00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.759
Yeah, than than how we started.

00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:42.319
Yeah.

00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:47.279
And then so as we were just navigating this e-commerce, uh, we thought, hey, you know what?

00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:48.400
This is a lot of work.

00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:48.799
Yeah.

00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.599
You know, I'm breaking my back in the garage.

00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.680
Packing pallets, packing pallets, wrapping them, lifting, paletizing.

00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:58.799
I'm just like, yeah, lifting.

00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.039
I'm like, oh my god, no, this is too much.

00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:06.400
We found an opportunity online where someone will build a store for you.

00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:07.200
Yeah.

00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.799
And we thought, okay, wait a minute, let's check it out.

00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:17.759
So we started watching videos about the the strategies and about the business model, and then we thought, hey, you know what?

00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:19.039
I guess this is it.

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:19.440
Yeah.

00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:20.400
This makes more sense.

00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.119
We were excited.

00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:22.000
We were excited.

00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.559
So, and then we had some cash in the bank, and then we deployed the money.

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.200
We had very little cash in the bank.

00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.079
It was like the last cash we had in the bank.

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:39.119
And in fact, we didn't have enough cash in the bank, and we had to bring in a partner, yeah, a friend that we met here.

00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:48.960
We had some stocks and I had to sell them all, cash them all out, and I was like, all right, so that just and then I think it was like 15,000, 20,000.

00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:49.440
I don't recall.

00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:54.400
We were twenty thousand and and our partner was twenty thousand and yeah.

00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.279
So that we had to hand over up front.

00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.319
Up front, yeah, just for them to build just to build the investment for us, the store.

00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:03.839
Guess what?

00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:05.039
Not even a year.

00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:05.839
They just sent them.

00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.359
This was all during COVID, by the way.

00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:07.759
Yeah.

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:11.519
And then a year after or sell, they say, hey, we're going bankrupt.

00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:12.079
Yep.

00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:13.359
And we lost the money.

00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:14.720
We lost even more money.

00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:15.599
More money.

00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:17.759
And they're now what the heck are we gonna do?

00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:18.319
Yeah.

00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.039
So yeah, that's another story there.

00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:22.160
So we lost money.

00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:23.839
We lost twenty thousand there.

00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:31.920
We lost also when we sold the restaurants, we sold one of the restaurants, we sold them to soup two separate buyers.

00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.160
One of the buyers, you know, we financed part of the transaction for them.

00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:37.440
27,000, I think.

00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.400
27,000 they owed us.

00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:47.440
And when we moved, finally moved to Arizona, they were like, Oh, by the way, I'm I'm going out of business.

00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:50.799
Yeah, like a few months in, I don't even know how many months he had.

00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:52.480
Six months or so.

00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:59.839
He was doing a full build out and barely opened his doors before he couldn't continue paying rent.

00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.720
And he said, Sorry, I'm going out of business.

00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.000
So that$27,000 I owed you, yeah, don't don't count on it.

00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:07.119
Didn't even see a penny.

00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.400
Never saw a dime.

00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:08.960
Yep.

00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.119
So now we lost that money.

00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:19.519
We brought so much debt from Connecticut, and then when we kind of started rebuilding, we lost money again with that investment.

00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:20.160
Yep.

00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.880
And here we are in Arizona.

00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.720
Um like boom, boom, boom.

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:25.200
Yep.

00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:26.079
We're still rebuilding.

00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:33.279
And then recently, two months ago, I lost my job.

00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:35.440
Not even two months ago.

00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:36.640
Not even two months ago.

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:37.279
I lost my job.

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:38.160
So here we are again.

00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:38.640
Here we are.

00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:40.000
Trying to rebuild once again.

00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.960
But you know, it seems like an interesting story.

00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.119
It is an interesting story, but we have accomplished so many things.

00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:49.440
Yeah.

00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:51.759
We have learned so many things.

00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:52.559
Yeah, so many things.

00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.000
So we have a beautiful family.

00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.799
Uh our kids are thriving, they're healthy.

00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:57.839
We are healthy.

00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:59.119
We have a great marriage.

00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:00.400
We have a great marriage.

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.200
We don't have that much debt anymore.

00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:04.960
We have a beautiful house.

00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.160
Beautiful family.

00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.039
Beautiful family.

00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:07.839
Beautiful life.

00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.240
Beautiful dogs that they were parking a minute ago, and I have to yell at them.

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:14.960
So, yeah, so beautiful weather.

00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:16.480
Beautiful weather, yeah.

00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:18.000
Except summer.

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:18.880
Yeah.

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:23.440
But we we go to Connecticut at least one time a year to visit our parents.

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.160
We are still building.

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We're rebuilding again.

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We're rebuilding again.

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We are in the depths in the depths of it again.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, but but we're happy.

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Uh believe it or not, we're happy after all these losses.

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They're just lesson to us.

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Right.

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You know, they're just lesson to us, and then that's why we decided, hey, we need to, we need to get some microphones and kind of, you know, put our life out there.

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And because I know this is gonna resonate with so many people that they're trying to rebuild and uh and or they think, oh man, shit always happens to me.

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Yeah.

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Like, no, like things happen, but you have to pick yourself up and make things work.

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.440
And we've been doing this work for like what, can ten years?

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Yeah, you have to look at you know, that mindset of, oh shit happens to me.

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You have to look at it as like, no, this is happening for me.

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This is happening for me, yeah.

00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:27.119
And that's how we're choosing to look at Ken's job loss is this is happening for us because we know that he was not happy in that job.

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He was stressed out, yeah, miserable.

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The work was okay, like and he liked some of the people that he worked with, but we know that that's not our ultimate goal in life, is for him to work a job.

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It is for us to build something that's more meaningful, more impactful, more soul fulfilling.

00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.319
Um, that's our dream, that's our goal.

00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.400
Yep, absolutely, Kim.

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And again, we came along like it's just crazy.

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Now, again, like uh as we recorded, I had to like stop a few times because so many things happen.

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And I ski we skipped so many things.

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Yeah, not all in between, not all bad things, because we manifested a lot of things right that what we have right now.

00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:16.799
Yeah, it now we are like summarizing our life and we manifested so many good things.

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Yeah, you know, good, good things.

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Things bad happened, but something good happened right after.

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Right.

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Something bad happened, yeah, and then something good happened right after.

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:32.640
You know, so it's just like a you we are just rebuilding your kind of, you know, um tuning this guitar.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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You're tuning your life to kind of find where you want to go.

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Yeah.

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And we've been doing that again for a long time.

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And here we are recording our life and we're excited.

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You know, we get up in the morning, we um you exercise more than me.

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We do yoga sometimes, we try to do a few things here and there to kind of keep us, you know, motivated.

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We do a lot of meditation to set up the day, and there's uh some other episodes that we talk about what we do, how we make things work.

00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:05.359
Yes, you know, to we share a lot of those tools.

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Yeah, to how to overcome things in life.

00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:10.480
Uh, because they're just events.

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That's why we see it.

00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:11.759
Yeah.

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:12.559
We talk about it.

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We sometimes we're in the backyard or in the pool or in in the living room or in the kitchen.

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We just talk about they're all just event.

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Right.

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We get sad or we kinda down spiral for a minute, but then or you pick me up or I pick you up.

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We're gonna be okay.

00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:27.039
Yeah.

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We're gonna be okay, and guess what?

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:29.519
We're okay.

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Yeah.

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We're more than okay.

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We're more than okay.

00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:44.079
And it's the the thing you kind of skipped over about this was we didn't just start with this mindset because as I mentioned in the beginning, I had very bad clinical depression for most of my life.

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And I get into that story in future episodes.

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Some really interesting, really interesting how I worked through all of that.

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And really important for anybody who's listening who struggles with any of that.

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I get into that in further detail of what that looked like.

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But you know, this wasn't always our positive mindset and our positive outlook on these events, of course.

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We struggled like deeply.

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I had the clinical depression, you had very much situational and seasonal depression at times.

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And we always had to work through that.

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And now we have found tools and things that work for us in order for us to be in the mindset that we're in.

00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:25.759
Yep.

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Absolutely.

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And I, you know, said in in other episodes as well that I struggled to get out of bed most mornings, a lot of the time in my life, a good chunk of my life.

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I struggled to get out of bed and never thought it was available to me to get out of bed and look forward to the day and enjoy my life and be like, wow, this is my life.

00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:47.920
Yeah.

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But that's where I'm at, and um, I know that's where you're at.

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Yeah.

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And so that's why we want to be here with you, sharing our story, and hopefully you can resonate with our story, and hopefully you can learn some tools that will work for you to help you rebuild your life when you have those downward moments, downward spirals, because we want to be there to help pick you up.

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That's our tool.

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That's our goal.

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.559
Yeah, we're gonna lift you up, definitely.

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.960
You know, because again, we just sometimes get so overwhelmed that we don't know what to do.

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Right.

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And we're just gonna downspiral, like, what the heck is going on?

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Yeah.

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I mean, we just get sad and then you don't know what to do, you feel stuck, yeah.

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And then like nothing is working out.

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Everything is mindset.

00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.720
Again, in other episodes, we talk about this today.

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We wanted to put our story so you guys can see who we are.

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We're just a nice couple that had tons of uh experiences out there, good and bad, but we take the best of it every single time.

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So again, this is the lesson, the lessons.

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We do.

00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:55.839
So again, this is uh Ken and Kim podcast.

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We we will continue sharing more uh more content, yeah, more episodes for you to enjoy and for you to navigate live with us.

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Yeah, follow along so we can share our story with you and the tools that help us, and so we can help you rebuild along right alongside with us.

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That's right.

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All right, we'll see you the next time.

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All right, bye.

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Bye.

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